What are the draw backs with using Canon 24-105 L USM ii with crop sensor 90D?

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  1. Alayna11

    Alayna11 New Member

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    I have a 90d and curious to see if other people have used the L series 24-105 on 90D or 80 / 70 d - and how good is that set up or not?
     

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    It is a good lens for any Canon camera, the L lenses are really good optical quality. The lens is EF and made for full frame use, so using it on a cop body is not a problem at all and I would not consider the body at all in the lens decision other than the fact it is made to mount on your camera.

    I recommended the 24-70 2.8 over this because you mentioned weddings and I would rather have the ability to shoot 2.8 than use IS or zoom all the way to 105. There is also a 24-70 4.0 IS too, but at this mm range I imagine I would be sticking at 1/60 or faster anyway shooting people at a wedding, so the IS would not be needed as much as the extra stop wider.(My two cents at least on the subject)
    I have not owned a 24-105 or the 24-70 but am speaking from use case perspective if I was in your shoes. I took a different route and went with a very wide zoom for landscape and I have the 50mm and 85mm primes for shooting portraits. instead of having a full zoom range. But I do not shoot weddings.

    In summary to consider:
    Ask yourself if you need IS at that wide of a zoom range given the subject matter.
    Ask yourself if you would want to shoot more wide open at 2.8.
     
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    Thanks Alot ... Really appreciate that advice....
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    2.8 sounds like the go ... I'll have a look around
     
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    Yep not a problem :) and again I am putting my two cents out there, I am sure there are others with opposing view points but definitely want you to have some points to consider.
     
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    HI Can you comment on this as well please. I also photography families alot, in studio. Would the 24-70 be good for that too. Also, I read about the 17 to 55 2.8 for a crop sensor as a possible alternative, to retain the wide angle. I'd probably need a somewhat wide angle, as weddings often want a large group photo with 100 people or so in it........ plus my studio is a small space. I've been researching the cameras you mentioned. The fact IS is missing from the 2.8 24-70 kind of bothers me also, as I like to use very slow shutter speeds at time. 1/20th etc. cheers........ advice is appreciated...... Am looking at the Sigma Art 18 - 35 1.8 plus the 24-70 f4 Canon - but then I'm still missing a telephoto. around 200 / 250 mm would be ideal.. but then this is 3 cameras on the go . ! Another reason why I was considering a zoom to start with .... too many choices...
     
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    Well the 17-55 you mentioned is an option for going wider. Shooting in studio common focal lengths are 35/50/85 for small groups through 3/4 and head shot crops. You can covert to a crop sensor but similar idea applies. Shooting a large group I can see you doing in studio as you'd get well beyond the backdrop induing the ceiling.

    The wide end while nice to have for a few more millimeters is less of an issue because you can crop appropriately by using your feet outside. I think you'll have to take and go outside with your lenses you have and feel out the difference between 17 and 24 for getting a large group outside. Another thought is maybe you pick up an ultra wide like 14mm lens for that specific situation.

    I understand the initial thought that you would like to use 1/20 for a shot if needed, but you can't freeze motion at that speed so people will be soft. I would argue you should be making other adjustments. Do you use fill flash at weddings?
     
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    Thank you again for your comments. For the 1/20th this is more for experimentations, not at weddings - but I find the image stabilisation useful anyway.... as I'd be using these for low light band photos as well, pretty sure I've decided now.. I'm going to hold off on the 2.8 24-70 for some future purchase for a full frame camera. For now for my 90D crop sensor I'll go with a sigma Art 1.8 18-35, plus the canon F4 24-70 Plus maybe also a 200 mm .... What I like about the F4 over the F2.8 24-70 is the "macro" function .... I'll carry two cameras at weddings, like I already do..
     
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