Any news on the Canon 6d replacement yet?

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  1. bullwhip

    bullwhip New Member Site Supporter

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    Any news on the Canon 6d replacement yet?
     

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    It's somehow strange that this camera is so late. I just read that the latest rummor is there will be no 6D Mark II, but a mirrorless FF camera in his place. Frankly, I don't know what to think. A mirrorless FF camera will make sense, and will be a very good addition for Canon. On the other hand, the time needed for R&D means that development must have started 3 years ago, when mirrorless was not such a big deal like today. On the other hand, not replacing one of the most successfull FF camera on the market, and 6D was so, it would be foolish.

    So, I still think that a normal DSLR 6D replacement will come. Maybe in the next month, maybe in the next days, who knows?
     
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    i would think the FF sony mirrorless would be hard to beat, where i'd love to see a canon 6D ll.
     
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    ...seeing what Olympus (4/3), Fuji (APS-C), Sony (FF), Fuji and Hasselblad (medium format) put in the market, a medium priced FF mirrorless with some nice features, EF mount and EF-S capability (with a low pixel count) could be a smart move. Canon's (and Nikon's) disadvantage lies in the fact that they're giants trying to cover the market, an ambition that immobilizes them. The others, especially Fuji and Olympus, have understood that and specialize, resulting in some really great stuff. I think the age of moving parts in cameras is coming to an end, whether we like it or not. But I agree, a normal 6D Mk II can be expected and will be acquired by me...
     
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    Can you develop on the subject, please? Thank you!
     
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    For instance : a Sony A9 is capable of 20 i/s, I don't know of any DSLR that can do that. Supposing one were made, what is the quality, the dependability, the lifespan, the noise and most of all the price of such a machine gun ?
    Give me a mirrorless 6D MkII, fitted with the 5D MkIV sensor and the right mount, which would allow EF and EF-S lenses (the latter with APS-C sensor coverage @ about 11-12 mpx). The whole DSLR lens catalog at your disposal, the choice can go from high quality to low budget, 800mm monster to 24mm pancake.
    And while we're at it: make it a beautiful retro body with all those nice (Fujifim) buttons and dials !
     
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    Understood and thank you! Personally I prefer that 6D Mk II to remain an accessible DSLR camera, with the classic optical viewfinder. It is the only option for someone that can't afford 5D series (and an opportunity for Canon to sell more).

    As for an alternative, instead of the mirrorless, I would like to have a SLT (better sensor protection than an actual DSLR, where the mirrorless have none) with BSI sensor (the viewfinder will be electronic anyway), with the same flange distance, as additions to what you said above. But I opt for this because the only Sony camera I like is &99. A bomb will be to have 20Mp resolution in APS-C mode - how many Mp means in full frame such a sensor?
     
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    A new rummor is that 6D will come in September. With this will be an year of failed rummors about launching date. Of course, I don't know if this new rumor will come to be real, or not, but I hope the previous one is more closer to the truth. That one with launching date in June.:)
     
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    Well l if you look at what the 6D did it was a trimmed spec 5dmk3 released later that year at Photokina in Nov 2012. Given the aprox 5 year timeline that the higher level cameras are averaging, and the 5dmk4 came out last fall I would suspect they will release the 6d mk 2 this year, probably in the fall. The Photokina 2012 6D release also included the introduction of WIFI and GPS to the DSLR lineup, unless there is something huge under wraps I doubt they will wait for Photokina next year.
    I suspect the 6dmk2 will mostly feel like a processor upgrade to the Digic 6+ with probably about 25mp. It will likely feel much like what the 5d3 was to the 5d2.
     
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    That's easy, the crop factor being 1.6, you would need the 50 mpx sensor of the 5DSR (20x1.6x1.6). Btw, that camera can give you that crop, but is doesn't take EF-S lenses...
     
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    Didn't looked at that (don't have a fullframe), but a flange transplant from a Rebel won't fix the problem?
     
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    No that won't help. FF camera's have a different mirror chamber because the mirror is larger. The mirror would hit the back of the EF-S lenses. That's why FF lenses DO fit on APS-C cameras from Canon. But no problems with a mirrorless camera, there being no mirror; the mount itself is identical. The EF-S lenses protrude a little further into the camera, that's all.
     
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    I get it now, thank you!
     
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    Another rummor. Launching date in July, hitting the market in August. Nothing new about specifications.
    I found this a little weird. Missing the summer season?
     
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    Breaking news:)

    This time is not a rummor, but real news. A full frame Canon camera was registered at certification authorities. The size of a 6D, with tilting screen, WiFi, and Bluetooth:

    http://www.canonwatch.com/
     
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    Canon EOS 6D Mark II Specifications:

    • 26mp CMOS Sensor
    • DPAF
    • DIGIC 7
    • 1080P 60p (sadly, no 4K)
    • 45pt AF all cross-type
    • Single SD card slot
    • Wi-Fi
    • Bluetooth
    • NFC
    • 3″ Vari-Angle LCD
    • Touchscreen
    • Approx 100% viewfinder
    • HDR Movie
    • Time Lapse Movie
    • A slightly taller and deeper body over the current EOS 6D.
    • New battery grip BG-E21
    • Announcement on June 29, 2017, Shipping in early August
    • Price: $1999 body only USD

    Read more: http://www.canonrumors.com/pricing-more-information-about-the-eos-6d-mark-ii-cr3/#ixzz4kK7Xjg1A
     
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    I must say that I'm somehow dissapointed with those specifications. No 4K, no dual slot card, only 6.5 f/s. Looks like a yesterday upgrade, good for 2015. Sony, Fuji, and others will eat Canon alive at this pace.
     
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    Well, I bought the 6D 4+ yrs ago for the same money as this one is going to fetch. My best buy ever. This camera has IMHO always been underestimated IQ-wise. I wouldn't be surprised if the MkII beats the 5DMkIV noise-wise. They just play in different leagues. I think 30% extra pixels, a swiveling touchscreen, dual pixel tech and 45% extra speed, not to mention a far better focusing system than before, is a worthy update. A pity I can't go along (€€€), i'm retired now. I went for the 80D (which shares about every major spec with the MkII) ; it cannot win IQ-wise but is more forgiving than a more or less handicapped full frame camera. The handicaps will be gone in the MkII, and watch those firmware updates in the future. It's no use comparing "budget" cameras to the best in the market...
     
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    Yes, 6D is a very good camera. And because of that, the expectations are very high. If the new sensor in 6D 2 is very good, with same or better low noise and better dynamic range, and counting all other news, tilting display, new AF, and so on, almost everyone will consider that's a very good camera for photography, period. But we don't know this. And reading reactions on Petapixel, a lot of people are dissapointed more or less by this specifications. Some are saying that they will not upgrade.

    Personally, I would like 4K, and a faster frame per second. We'll have to wait for the first tests, to see how this sensor performs.
     
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    Well if canon included a faster frame rate and 4k video the specs would place it in the realm of the newest 5D and 1D models and it would be priced accordingly.
     

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